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Sounds perfect Wahhhh, I don’t wanna
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noirandchocolate

ckret2 replied to your post “thefloatingstone replied to your post “Other People:  OMG I wonder…”

I can see the movie shaking up the status quo IF AND ONLY IF it does so in a way that doesn’t result in any character growth. Like “Zim learns the mission is a lie and doesn’t go into denial,” but it concludes with “Zim decides to keep trying to conquer Earth anyway to show the Tallest how amazing he is.” Or, “everyone dies in absurd ways because JV plans to never come back to the TV show; if he changes his mind it’ll be retconned.” Or “Zim wins” for the same reason, etc.

Yesssss, now this I can see!  Yeah mostly what I don’t expect to see happen, and what I think folks will be disappointed if they go into it thinking it’ll happen, IS that character-growth kind of stuff.  These are good examples of how things can change but the characters will remain mostly if not completely the same.  I just really don’t think this is the kind of series where the characters are MEANT to “grow” or change much or be “redeemed” or anything like that.  There’s nothing wrong with shows that are like that–I enjoy them!–but IZ isn’t one of them IMHO and also IMHO that’s FINE.

ckret2

Character growth & redemption, while something i want to see for most of the characters, is… not what I want to see for them in canon. And not something that would feel appropriate in canon.

IZ is one of those odd ducks where what I want/expect out of fanworks and out of canon are totally different. In fanfic, I want, expect, and enjoy for people to dig into the weird nuances of Irken culture, and the harrowing/traumatic things these children go through, and the Membranes’ awful home life, etc; but in canon, that kind of treatment would completely go against the tone and spirit of the show in an unpleasant way, even if it was handled the exact same way that it is in fic. They’re sort of two totally different realms.

… That, and if JV did take that route, I would never, ever be able to shake the sense that he did it out of sneering mockery of the fans, no matter how sincere it sounds.

noirandchocolate

All I can add to this is: this is exactly how I feel too!

Also on the last part, I definitely get that given that the Tak episode felt like a response to “new kid in class” fanfic and “Zim finds out his mission is a lie omg!” has been a HUGE fic trope since the very beginning. So…yeah.

invader zim kidk says stuff i mean hell my zim found out the tallest lied got mad and decided earth is HIS not the empire’s my dib is 30 goddamn years old doing cutting edge might as well be scifi science zim still considers dib an enemy nemesis and dib still hates zim but dib is like eh ill stop you if you need stopping but otherwise im busy my gaz is a rising star game developer with gasp actual friends they all have friends and found family would i want anything like this to happen in canon? hell no!! these developments are the result of 18 real-time YEARS of growth this is MY IZ world other people have done equally complex and detailed and heartfelt things too doing ANYTHING even CLOSE to heartfelt in canon would not be...RIGHT canon is for madcap hijinks!!! thats what makes it great!!
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The thing that Crowley loves most about Aziraphale is that he’s noisy. 

Crowley has spent his life living in quiet. Sometimes, it’s the peaceful kind; the kind of silence that’s looking out of the window, drinking a cup of coffee and watching the glass steam up whilst catching up with your thoughts. But most of the time, it’s a lonely kind of silence. It’s a silence that he feels an urge to fill with Queen, or Mozart, or reprimanding his plants. It’s the sort of silence that leads him to staring out of the window, less with content introspection, more through some need to remind himself of the people down below. A silence that makes his dark, minimalist apartment feel like a cell. 

But Aziraphale fills the silence. And Crowley has often found that people will fill the space they occupy, fill the space they’re provided with things and trinkets and love and noise. Aziraphale is no different. Aziraphale has seen the cavernous gap in Crowley’s heart and filled it, whether he knows it or not. 

It’s in the way he sings when he’s forgotten that Crowley is next door, when he thinks no one can hear him bum-di-pum-pum-ing through some Mozart requiem. The little noises of contentment when he’s eating. The way he makes comments all the way through movies- ‘Oh, I like his outfit’. ‘That wasn’t a very nice thing to say, I don’t like this character all too much, dear boy.’ ‘Oh! I didn’t see that coming!’- that drives Crowley mad. Or, the way he makes keening noises in his ear when they’re tangled up together beneath the sheets- that drives Crowley mad. It’s in the way that Aziraphale calls him when they’re apart, voice distorted down the phone but no less comforting. 

It’s in the gentle sound of him turning the pages of his book in Crowley’s apartment. 

It’s in the way that he hears Aziraphale’s voice in his head when they’re apart. The way that Crowley’s mind supplies conversation with him, when his angel is absent. And it’s in the way that something in him sings, knowing that Aziraphale exists.

my writing lmao something i wrote just before heading out cause it popped into my head ineffable husbands crowley aziraphale drabble
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with all his hairstyle shenanigans, crowley MUST have impulsively shaved all his hair completely off at one point

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Davied Bowie said in some interview that he was so mad one time that he shaved off his eyebrows. And that is a big Crowley mood

i cut mine off with scissors once had to draw them on for two weeks with my mom's eyeliner of course everyone noticed the colour when they were halfway regrown and decided i was a redhead who bleached my hair because my eyebrows were copper and i couldn't even tell them crowley headcanons