Okay, Lady, here are my thoughts on DD9 Garak - not entirely fleshed out, but I’m writing from his perspective, so I needed to know how he’d take things, how he’d look at things, and I can’t do that without a past.
Dammit, I went through all my DD9 stuff and I can’t find my Julian history.
DRAT.
Dredging the hard drive tonight…
I forgot I already drew DD9 Garak disapproving of jeans and a tshirt!
yay, disapproval~
Anonymous asked:
Have you/the DD9 "crew" considered maybe doing a DD9 wiki or similar? It could be a neat way to organize the 'verse for anyone that wants a quick reference or to understand the AU before diving into the fics.
tinsnip answered:
Hmm. This is an interesting idea. There’d be a lot of blanks. Wouldn’t want to restrict anyone, though, you know? Don’t want to set anything in stone in a ‘verse where the only constant is “they’re all Human, go to it.”
Lady, what thinkest thou?
Not really?
It’s probably because it was born on my posts, but I feel like it’s very easy to understand? Some things vary between authors, but every fic is literally “All these people work and live near this modern day pizza shop. They’re all human and all do things, as much as this setting will allow, vaguely analogous to their canon jobs. Aliens are different cultural groups. No one is dead. And Garak/Bashir is a thing.”
So I don’t know what a wiki would even entail. An entry for Julian detailing that he varies a whole 2 years in age between some authors’ fics?
It’s more undefined than some people think! Garak and Julian are pretty well accepted and hammered out as they are, sure, and some of their regular contacts are mostly shaped, but other folks, it’s questionable. Odo doesn’t always have the same role (mall cop, private investigator, regular police guy), Miles doesn’t always have the same role (actual maintenance guy for the shop/Quark’s/apartments, fix it guy for just the shop, employee at the shop who never gets to actually make pizza because he’s the only one who knows how to fix broken ovens). Jadzia and Ezri might be students of science and psychology. Worf might live in the delivery van, he might also live down the hall from Julian.
There might be a Voyager coffee shop nearby, there might not.
How funny is Dominion Pizza? How serious? ….Damar???
There’s just… tons of stuff.
DD9 is literally built as people play with it and some things are just accepted widely. We formed a sort of initial base and it grows as it’s played with. There’s not a lot to understand *before* diving into fics, because all there is to understand IS IN the fics.
Truthfully, yeah, there are some conversations, text walls between me and tinsnip, meta ideas, headcanon ramblings and that sort of thing that might help someone who wanted to craft something and wanted to make sure they weren’t … doing something weird? I don’t know. But some of those apply now and some don’t. Some were accepted by people at large, some weren’t.
I feel like making a wiki would just be a lot of people making pages and saying, ‘This is sometimes how it is,’ and in the end, I’m not sure how useful that really is.
The best way to get familiar on a really in depth level is to read all the fic, I guess, and then to look at the deep dish nine tag, or the deep dish nine blog, and just go as far back as possible, to the initial building block stuff. Somewhere in there are conversation spews several thousand words long between me and tinsnip as well as several other people. And there you’d run across stuff like ‘generally accepted place names’ and the like, and even then, most of that is mentioned in fics.
But it really is just ‘everyone is human, works and lives in/near this pizza shop and does something sensibly like their deep space job. and garak/bashir.’
“All these people work and live near this modern day pizza shop. They’re all human and all do things, as much as this setting will allow, vaguely analogous to their canon jobs. Aliens are different cultural groups. No one is dead. And Garak/Bashir is a thing.”
I’m pretty sure this is really the best description of Deep Dish Nine so far.
aceofwands asked:
I actually think it'd make sense if 'the Wormhole' was a nickname for a new highway that was built through Bajor, connecting the Alpha quadrant (of the country, or city, whichever) to the Gamma one - so what was once an empty rundown strip mall on a deserted back road became the most travelled route in town ;) Lucky for Sisko he moved in just before this happened :D
deep-dish-nine answered:
I watched the DS9 finale with JamieKinosian last night for moral support. We had a sketch session afterwards. I drew DS9 Garak and DD9 Garak. Because DD9 is where I go for pizza, rainbows and nothing hurts.
propheticfire asked:
I know DD9 the pizzeria is located in a multicultural neighborhood, but I'm wondering: are they IN Little Bajor, or is that just a neighboring district? Cardassia Heights is a neighboring district, I'm pretty sure. Are there any other neighboring districts with names that have already been established? (I am so deep in this world, please, help me dig myself deeper . . .)
deep-dish-nine answered:
The way I’ve got it set up is that the building used to be located in Cardassia Heights but Cardassia Heights and Little Bajor had kind of a fight over the general area and Cardassia Heights just ended up sort of migrating a bit to ‘classier’ areas while Little Bajor took back their space.
There were big ugly industrial buildings and such all around, so Cardassia Heights just gave up a span of a several blocks/streets on one side and are probably building even nicer apartments with three blocks they took from someone on the other side.
So the building now technically belongs to Little Bajor, but I imagine that it will be a while before the city at large feels that it’s really Little Bajor again.
Meanwhile, Sisko is Federation dude leasing the building and it’s turned out to be in an advantageous spot with a lot of access to the other ‘Little’ places because since Dukat (and Little Cardassia) left the area, the city has finished building a ton of stuff near the place - a hub for something like a Greyhound bus system, a bit of highway that connects it better with the rest of the city, probably has some lightrail or streetcar nonsense… A bunch of stuff that Dukat did not stick around to see finished or did not allow to be finished because he had a bunch of sway in the area and he thought it was making it all look cheap, something. And thus he missed out on the large traffic once it was all finished.
Meanwhile, I think these places all exist as their own countries too. The city where they are (or maybe more probably the state or province or country??? I don’t know) just strives for a lot of inclusion and tries to improve international relations by letting these little neighborhoods take care of themselves and run organically. They have some final authority on things, but it’s all very ‘do not interfere’-y.
Garak is not welcome either in Cardassia the Country, nor Cardassia Heights the neighborhood. But anything he did to cause that would have happened in the country, not the Heights, because Cardassia proper really does not give a fuck what goes on in some far off back water hunk of nothing. But Dukat’s in charge of it, so obviously he thinks it has more importance than it does. He does conduct the place as though it IS a bit of Cardassia, short of requiring passports for entry, so there are a lot of local customs and unwritten laws when you go there, which means most people just don’t. It’s usually a fancy area though, they just sort of move amoeba-like when the area stops being fancy or good enough for Dukat.
There’s lots of vaguery and fudging things here and there involved, mostly.
I don’t think I’ve seen anyone name any of the other areas. though some of us (probably me and tinsnip) talked about a few of them before. …though mostly in the context of how ridiculous they sounded, if I remember rightly. I think we thought Vulcan Town was hilariously bad and that it would be really kind of gross if everything was named ‘Little’ something. Cities name their neighborhoods with a little more elegance than that, hence Cardassia Heights, rather than Cardassia Town or Little Cardassia.
I’d like to sit down and name them all sometime, but if I’m honest, what part of the story am I preoccupied with? Garak/Bashir. So if I ever have a reason for either of them to travel to Andor Hills or Little Betazed, (field trip! guest lecturer at another hospital! giant fabric expo!) I guess I’ll start establishing some names for them and see if any of them stick, haha.
Absolutely, totally, wonderfully brilliant, and EXACTLY what I was hoping for. I’m one of those people who needs as much information as she can get—if it’s out there already to be gotten. That’s what makes a world real, right? A modicum of consistency?
propheticfire asked:
I know DD9 the pizzeria is located in a multicultural neighborhood, but I'm wondering: are they IN Little Bajor, or is that just a neighboring district? Cardassia Heights is a neighboring district, I'm pretty sure. Are there any other neighboring districts with names that have already been established? (I am so deep in this world, please, help me dig myself deeper . . .)
deep-dish-nine answered:
Nrm nrm. Um. Okay. Mine is right near the freeway entrance, but lots of little nabes branch off around it. So we have Little Bajor over here, and Cardassia Heights over there, and if you want to get to Starfleet University you have to take the bus or the streetcar, and who knows… you could have any neighbourhood you like, really… and meanwhile here is Deep Dish Nine and its apartment perched in the no man’s land where it’s mostly strip mall, gas station, on ramp. But it’s not far to anything.
Does that make sense?
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