themanfromnantucket asked:
tinsnip answered:
Oooh, fun! So I consulted with Vyc, and the conversation went as follows:
tinsnip:
Well, I think it probably depends on whose!
If you’re dealing with a family with a mother and father, then we’d have mother’s mother and father’s mother, father’s mother and father’s father. Odds are they all live with you anyway, if they’re still alive, so you can’t just say “Grandpa,” it’s going to confuse everybody.
adik is mother and yadik is father.
a’adik is mother’s mother; ya’adik is mother’s father.
a’yadik is father’s mother; ya’yadik is father’s father.
Those are the formal names. You can also abbreviate. ad’ is mommy, yad’ is daddy, a’ad’ is mommy’s mommy, ya’ad’ is mommy’s daddy, a’yad’ is daddy’s mommy, ya’yad’ is daddy’s daddy.
There are also pet names, of course, like ts-ts (because that’s one of the first noises most little reptile babies can make, so of course the grandparents co-opt it), or hUr (a sort of humming, purring coo; a soothing sort of noise). A little puff of air might be a thing too: ffuh.
Vyc:
I absolutely love that it matters in Kardasi whose grandfather you’re talking about. With both family and territory being huge things for Cardassians, that makes perfect sense.
The only place I see a problem is when trying to apply the rules to families with two parents of the same gender. How do you specify whose grandfather you’re talking about when technically both would be termed ya’adik? While we could go the route of one being ya’adik and the other ya’ad’, I feel as though Cardassians would have words to discriminate between the two regardless. What would those words be? What would they be based on? Status of one parent versus another? But what happens if they’re both, say, hibalek class? I don’t know! :D;
tinsnip:
Yes! I thought of this too, re: same-sexed parents, and I figure that this is where you’ll have “grandfather” and “gramps,” kind of thing? Or “nana” and “pop pop?”
Re: status: oooo, that’s complicated. Okay. Well, that might determine who’s “grandfather” and who’s “pop-pop”. High status wins and gets more respect. If you’re both the same class, older wins. If you’re both the same age, perhaps names do start coming into play, and we get ya’ad’ Rugal and ya’ad’ Chemut. But that’d be uncommon, weird enough that other people would be like, wow, what are the odds? And you’d be like, dude, I know.
And there was unanimity, and much smiling~!
So, Leonard Nimoy is everybody’s grandfather! But since we can’t give him a maternal or paternal aspect, let’s just call him ts-ts and be done with it!
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