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thornfield13713

cosmictuesdays asked:

So in a DS9/Vorkosigan saga crossover, would Bashir be Betan or Cetagandan? I'm leaning towards Cetagandan, myself.

eponymous-rose answered:

Ooh, good question! Except, for some utterly bizarre reason, I picture him as being Jacksonian, and really frustrated about it (to the point where he goes out of his way to make people think he’s Betan). I think, in a universe where a certain amount of genetic engineering is pretty much expected, you’ve gotta find your conflict in how it was done, and for a Jacksonian, that answer is almost sure to be “illegally and immorally”, which maybe parallels Bashir’s case a little more than the others would. (Was he engineered with the expectation that he’ll get a clone’s brain at some point down the line? Something like that.) Cetaganda’s got the whole gene-splicing thing going on, and goodness knows Bashir’s got the haut-look about him, but there’s something a bit too distant and removed and self-satisfied about that process for it to fit Bashir’s case, IMO. And Beta just doesn’t quite have the conflict inherent in it. Hmm. Yeah, Jacksonian, I think!

cosmictuesdays

Technically, anything done on the Whole is lawless, not illegal. A fine but important designation.

And like I said - this gives me the good kind of shudders. Bashir walking around knowing someone wants to stick their brain into his body is exactly the proper tone of creepy.

crisisoninfintefandoms

I mean, if you wanted to go for REALLY fucked up, you could actually have it that Julian’s parents already had a brain transplant performed on him.  Like, maybe he had a traumatic brain injury, or was just born “mentally impaired” so they had another brain grown and then put into his body, throwing the other one out.  Or, the other way, he had some physical disability, either born or acquired (maybe kind of like Miles, actually) and they had his perfectly good brain transferred into a clone’s body at a young age.  And his parents wouldn’t have to be Jacksonian, they could be from somewhere else where something like that would be illegal and went to over there to LawlessVille to get the procedure done, which would kind of parallel the show where they had to go somewhere outside federation space.  And so Julian has all the same guilt going on about the clone that died in his stead.  

Sorry, I’ve been low key following this stuff and I think it’s so cool, sorry for barging in.   

thornfield13713

“You don’t understand, Jules!”

“No, you don’t understand. I stopped calling myself Jules when I was fifteen and I’d found out what you’d done to him. I’m Julian.“

“What difference does that make?”

“It makes every difference, because I’m different! Can’t you see that? Jules Bashir died in that clinic on Jackson’s Whole! His brain was discarded as biological waste and mine was implanted in his body! I’m no more Jules Bashir than any of those Jacksonian robber barons swanning around in cloned bodies are the clones they killed and replaced! You killed him, because you were ashamed-“

“That’s not true! We were never ashamed of you. Never.”

“…that is what you took from all of this? That I thought you it was me you were-”

“You don’t know. You’ve never had a child. You don’t know what it’s like to watch your son. To watch him fall a little further behind every day. You know he’s trying, but something’s holding him back. You don’t know what it’s like to stay up every night worrying that maybe it’s your fault. Maybe you did something wrong during the pregnancy, maybe you weren’t careful enough, or maybe there’s something wrong with you. Maybe you passed on a genetic defect without even knowing it. If we’d only used a uterine replicator, done a proper gene-scan, maybe-”

“Maybe I wouldn’t exist at all and you’d have had the child you wanted right from the start! And that would probably be a better world, but that doesn’t change what happened here! The truth is, I am wearing my brother’s corpse! It doesn’t matter what you intended, it doesn’t matter if you were ashamed of him or if you didn’t know what it would mean, because Jules is dead, Mother! He died on the operating table and no-one so much as mourned him! And no amount of good intentions are going to change that fact!”

barrayar to bajor good fuckin shit here chickens this isnt even what we'd headcanoned but it fucking is now!
crisisoninfintefandoms

cosmictuesdays asked:

So in a DS9/Vorkosigan saga crossover, would Bashir be Betan or Cetagandan? I'm leaning towards Cetagandan, myself.

eponymous-rose answered:

Ooh, good question! Except, for some utterly bizarre reason, I picture him as being Jacksonian, and really frustrated about it (to the point where he goes out of his way to make people think he’s Betan). I think, in a universe where a certain amount of genetic engineering is pretty much expected, you’ve gotta find your conflict in how it was done, and for a Jacksonian, that answer is almost sure to be “illegally and immorally”, which maybe parallels Bashir’s case a little more than the others would. (Was he engineered with the expectation that he’ll get a clone’s brain at some point down the line? Something like that.) Cetaganda’s got the whole gene-splicing thing going on, and goodness knows Bashir’s got the haut-look about him, but there’s something a bit too distant and removed and self-satisfied about that process for it to fit Bashir’s case, IMO. And Beta just doesn’t quite have the conflict inherent in it. Hmm. Yeah, Jacksonian, I think!

cosmictuesdays

Technically, anything done on the Whole is lawless, not illegal. A fine but important designation.

And like I said - this gives me the good kind of shudders. Bashir walking around knowing someone wants to stick their brain into his body is exactly the proper tone of creepy.

crisisoninfintefandoms

I mean, if you wanted to go for REALLY fucked up, you could actually have it that Julian’s parents already had a brain transplant performed on him.  Like, maybe he had a traumatic brain injury, or was just born “mentally impaired” so they had another brain grown and then put into his body, throwing the other one out.  Or, the other way, he had some physical disability, either born or acquired (maybe kind of like Miles, actually) and they had his perfectly good brain transferred into a clone’s body at a young age.  And his parents wouldn’t have to be Jacksonian, they could be from somewhere else where something like that would be illegal and went to over there to LawlessVille to get the procedure done, which would kind of parallel the show where they had to go somewhere outside federation space.  And so Julian has all the same guilt going on about the clone that died in his stead.  

Sorry, I’ve been low key following this stuff and I think it’s so cool, sorry for barging in.   

barrayar to bajor
cosmictuesdays

cosmictuesdays asked:

So in a DS9/Vorkosigan saga crossover, would Bashir be Betan or Cetagandan? I'm leaning towards Cetagandan, myself.

eponymous-rose answered:

Ooh, good question! Except, for some utterly bizarre reason, I picture him as being Jacksonian, and really frustrated about it (to the point where he goes out of his way to make people think he’s Betan). I think, in a universe where a certain amount of genetic engineering is pretty much expected, you’ve gotta find your conflict in how it was done, and for a Jacksonian, that answer is almost sure to be “illegally and immorally”, which maybe parallels Bashir’s case a little more than the others would. (Was he engineered with the expectation that he’ll get a clone’s brain at some point down the line? Something like that.) Cetaganda’s got the whole gene-splicing thing going on, and goodness knows Bashir’s got the haut-look about him, but there’s something a bit too distant and removed and self-satisfied about that process for it to fit Bashir’s case, IMO. And Beta just doesn’t quite have the conflict inherent in it. Hmm. Yeah, Jacksonian, I think!

cosmictuesdays

Technically, anything done on the Whole is lawless, not illegal. A fine but important designation.

And like I said - this gives me the good kind of shudders. Bashir walking around knowing someone wants to stick their brain into his body is exactly the proper tone of creepy.

barrayar to bajor
cosmictuesdays

This is taking on a life of its own.

cosmictuesdays

A passing comment about the lack of uterine replicators in Star Trek led to some speculation, which has begun taking root in my brain. For the time being, at least.

I told Tinsnip last night that Miles would be quaddie who marries a bipedal human and takes her family name when he leaves Quaddiespace. Their daughter’s bipedal, with the embryo cultivated and implanted for a body birth, and when he and his wife sleep with the gravity on, they share a hammock.

As to why I think he fits as a quaddie, it’s not because of the engineering component - although that does add some nice synergy. It’s more that his particular viewpoint and character would translate well to the human-but-outsider status of that group. He’s an enlisted Starfleet officer rather than someone who went through the Academy, he’s someone deeply comfortable in space who enjoys going planetside but doesn’t feel any particular drive to head down there or even thinks of doing so unless someone else suggests it, and there’s the meta-textual aspect of having a well-established backstory in another series altogether. Miles needs to bring his own story with him, and this seemed one of the more dynamic ways to do so.

Also, he’d have what he calls “gecko gloves” that let him climb the walls and ceiling when the gravity’s on and he doesn’t have his zero-G bubble. (As ZiGraves said, “Mere gravity will not stop an engineer with something that needs tinkered with.”)

barrayar to bajor
cosmictuesdays
cosmictuesdays

tinsnip replied to your post: This is taking on a life of its own.

I find this delightful, and wish to see a picture of Miles with four arms. Beefy frickin’ arms. With reddish hair on all of ‘em.

Given that he’s a rare quaddie who spends a fair amount of time in non-zero gravity, forget beefy. He’d be ripped.

tinsnip

No neck. Giant arms. Broad grin. Velcro belt covered with wrenches. Spidering up the wall. Ceiling O’Brien, is what I’m getting at.
Yes to all of this.
cosmictuesdays

Taking off his wielding goggles - of course he wears goggles - with an upper hand, transferring whatever he had in his upper right hand to a lower arm in order to shake someone else’s hand, totally nonplussed and taking a secret delight in their momentary disorientation.

“That’s the problem with you downsiders whenever you get into zero-gee. You keep thinking up-down, left-right, forward-back - you’ve got to remember every way is up.”

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